CAROLEE often asked herself and her public: “is this good for Vulva?”. Is this good for women, for non-binary people, for oppressed bodies? Sands put a spin on her proverbial phrase in order to address his own gay/queer paradigm against the heteronormative structures he grew up with in Topeka (Kansas), the ones he studied alongside with at the Pratt Institute (NY), and the ones that pushed their way into his luggage all the way to his Amsterdam apartment.
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You might laugh the first time you hear it… but just distance yourself from dick-centrism for a second. The almost-not-quite-but-all-too tangible consciousness of the vagina/anus plagued the INTERGENERATIONAL layers of conversation during the weekly Gift Science Archive archiving sessions: a ghostly reminder of the way sexuality practically swims through the archive like a mermaid on a deadly-tasty endeavor, the repetition of the ‘gay gay gay’ as a world structure and a stuttering prophetic chant… The anus seems to die and rise again in the database, as the favourite part of the body but also as a core part of the labour, an epicenter to desire becoming epistemic effort. Ask yourself: what does a pussy or an anus want, what do they need and crave, and how can we give into their DREAMS? – AC.
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Digital registration of semi-public first nude performance in the ‘BOYS: The Construction of Masculinities’ group exhibition at Shedhalle, Zürich.
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“That’s how I feel mostly, when I’m working – like I’m in a club.” – SMW. “Being on the receiving end of pleasure.” – AC. “This is why I’ve been so fixated in bottomness. It’s not common. Gay men always identified on the top side.” – SMW.
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Digital image taken from documentation of performance available on Vimeo at: https://vimeo.com/76554268. The performance an homage to Annie Sprinkle and Beth Stephens, as well as Carolee Schneemann, together with Robin Wassink-Murray. The title taken from video documentation of ‘Town Bloody Hall’ (1979) with Jill Johnston and others. Location: Schlachthaus Theatre (Bern, Switzerland). Colour; sound; 48:10 (unedited).
“Robin and I were in the hotel room when we told Carolee the title of the performance, and she said wryly ‘no one will ever get that.’” – SMW.
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Key piece, repeated in relation to Carolee Schneemann and also in the ‘Metropolis M’ 2020 featured publication.
Gift Science Archive meeting – 20.08.20. “Carolee used to say: is this good for vulva? I ask ‘is this good for anus?’” – SMW.
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Created during spring 2020 lockdown and only work to be assembled (glued to canvas) in the Rijks studio.
SMW & AC inventorying session – 08.10.20. “My work is quite flat, almost reductive or stripped down. It’s not a negative thing.” – SMW.
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Email exchange – 12.04.20. “I had to document it all, even with others, partners, etc. because gay pornography figures and has figured in my life so I have to put my own body where I see the bodies of others…” – SMW.
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“We are moving quite fast today.” – SMW. “Look at us, masters of the archiving craft.” – AC. “Capitalising on the mystery of maybe being non-hetero.” – AC.
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“Having history is worth something.” – SMW. “It feels good to have a thicker skin… you would think caring less would be worse but it isn’t.” – SMW.
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The extended second process event in the three-part series featured an epistolary exchange between the artist and Bilbao-based curator Aimar Arriola. The exchange took place between June 2020 and February 2021, and – in process – was shared in www.ificantdance.studio between December 2020 and April 2021. From the ificantdance.studio: “Dipping in and out of a slow-time conversation between an artist and curator. To be read, whether chronologically or not, in an intimate space during moments alone”. – MH.
“El ano tuyo. After much activity at the start of the fall season, things quiet down through October. The exchange picks up again about one week into November, beginning with a series of photos of Aimar emerging from el ano tuyo [your anus], a narrow passageway marking the end of a cave in the Basque municipality of Tuyo [yours]. El ano tuyo, as you could imagine, opens onto a discussion of sexual pleasure zones and control, which implicitly leads us back to the topic of queer form—as Sands suggests in his response to Aimar’s rite-of-passage photos, his work about sex is all painting, all ‘one big gestural stroke’. Here Sands disappointment with the rejection of an invitation to Adrian Piper mixes together with a discussion of control as lifelong sculpting process and the formal (or, perhaps, informe or formless) possibilities of the orgasmic encounter—sexual, textual and otherwise. The chapter closes with a 20-page essay by art historian Kathy Wentrack written on the occasion of the 2001 exhibition Double Trouble: Carolee Schneemann and Sands Murray-Wassink. In it, Wentrack traces the shared aspects of Sands’ and Carolee’s art/life practices, particularly their shared commitment to using lived experience as the basis for creative production. Wentrack’s text is an important reference point in the the development of a narrative linking second wave feminism with third wave queer (male) feminisms. Following the essay, Sands shares one last image, perhaps to make Wentrack’s point more palpable, more present: If we began with el ano tuyo, we end with a gold-plated vulva.” – MH studio note from ificantdance.studio.
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8 strips were originally made; one strip is now with the Estate of Carolee Schneemann and one strip is in the personal collection of A.A. Bronson.
“The images were taken by Rudy Rijling in Amsterdam, an (at that time) older than me erotic photographer of young men whose ad I found in the back of a contact magazine. I had just gotten back from Greece with De Ateliers on a residency trip and because of the weather difference I had a very heavy red rash on the insides of my thighs. Luckily on black and white film this does not really show up. I had wanted to make this wallpaper in 1997 for my first exhibit ever at Stedelijk Museum Bureau Amsterdam but one of the curators, Martijn van Nieuwenhuyzen (a gay man himself) advised 23 year old me against it, saying I would become known as the ‘guy with the erect penis’. Carolee Schneemann told me never to be ashamed of pleasure and how the body shows it. So I was confused, but listened to him and then in 2007, ten years later, at a solo exhibit in Munich at Lothringer 13, finally had the opportunity to have the wallpaper made. I had tried to become a gay porno model, but only half-heartedly. I went back to Rudy later to ask for the negatives which he gave me, we also had sex a few times at some point. It’s one of the first times I realized that much older men were attractive to me…There were 8 strips of wallpaper and they were never glued, they exist as unique objects. I have to add and I don’t really like to, it gives me no great pleasure, that part of the idea of the wallpaper came from Andy Warhol’s Cow series of wallpaper and other series of his. But there could have been other influences this was not an exclusive influence.” – SMW.
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The pages are yellowed and cracked with age. Dutch Curator Erik Hagoort gave SMW a few huge boxes of these French gay liberation magazines from the 80s, and SMW intuitively started painting on them. There are many more than those listed in the archive.
“I had to throw away a lot of these, there were also Dutch gay liberation magazines in the boxes Erik Hagoort gave me, called ‘De Verkeerde Krant’ or so, (‘van de verkeerde kant’ was a Dutch saying for a queer person) but due to storage I could not keep everything as a resource to use. There are hundreds of these painted drawings, and they get quite a good response. Paul Thek = newspaper paintings, Karen Finley = same as Paul Thek, Erik Hagoort is the partner of Dutch artist Albert van Westing and AA Bronson showed a fondness for the drawings.” – SMW.
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Listings connecting to the keyword “Is this good for anus?” (823)
00443-2001…
Philosophical…
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2001
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“I always want to bring out these taboo subject, so that the world can heal.” – SMW. “Beware of the capitalist cloud. Position yourself.” – AC.
Inventorying session + invited archivist (IA) meeting – 15.09.20. “Can more voices join the archive over time? How does the future look for a ‘finished/abandoned’ archive?” – AC.
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00908-2017…
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Carolee Schneemann, Jo…
2017
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Self Portrait Images Ostensibly For Gay Internet Dating Sites (Planetromeo, etc.) Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, studio.
From 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “they are a bit too close for me to properly ‘judge’, they are a bit neutral for me. Carolee always told me to go to where the difficulty was, and somehow my face has always been a challenging situation.” – SMW. 30. April 2020 (inventory note): “I also think of Jo Spence, the British artist, being told she was ‘brave’ for using her own image when she was not classically beautiful. And Carolee Schneemann and Hannah Wilke subverting the ‘ideal image’. I feel somewhere in between as I swing between ‘more ideal’ and ‘less ideal’.” – SMW.
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Carolee Schneemann,…
2017
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Self Portrait Images Ostensibly For Gay Internet Dating Sites (Planetromeo, etc.) Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, studio.
From 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “they are a bit too close for me to properly ‘judge’, they are a bit neutral for me. Carolee always told me to go to where the difficulty was, and somehow my face has always been a challenging situation.” – SMW. 30. April 2020 (inventory note): “I also think of Jo Spence, the British artist, being told she was ‘brave’ for using her own image when she was not classically beautiful. And Carolee Schneemann and Hannah Wilke subverting the ‘ideal image’. I feel somewhere in between as I swing between ‘more ideal’ and ‘less ideal’.” – SMW.
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Carolee Schneemann,…
2017
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Self Portrait Images Ostensibly For Gay Internet Dating Sites (Planetromeo, etc.) Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, studio.
From 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “they are a bit too close for me to properly ‘judge’, they are a bit neutral for me. Carolee always told me to go to where the difficulty was, and somehow my face has always been a challenging situation.” – SMW. 30. April 2020 (inventory note): “I also think of Jo Spence, the British artist, being told she was ‘brave’ for using her own image when she was not classically beautiful. And Carolee Schneemann and Hannah Wilke subverting the ‘ideal image’. I feel somewhere in between as I swing between ‘more ideal’ and ‘less ideal’.” – SMW.
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Performance…
Carolee Schneemann, Jo…
2020
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Self Portrait Images Ostensibly For Gay Internet Dating Sites (Planetromeo, etc.) Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, shower room.
From 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “they are a bit too close for me to properly ‘judge’, they are a bit neutral for me. Carolee always told me to go to where the difficulty was, and somehow my face has always been a challenging situation.” – SMW. 30. April 2020 (inventory note): “I also think of Jo Spence, the British artist, being told she was ‘brave’ for using her own image when she was not classically beautiful. And Carolee Schneemann and Hannah Wilke subverting the ‘ideal image’. I feel somewhere in between as I swing between ‘more ideal’ and ‘less ideal’.” – SMW.
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Performance…
Hannah Wilke, Jo Spence
2020
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Self Portrait Images Ostensibly For Gay Internet Dating Sites (Planetromeo, etc.) Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, shower room.
From 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “they are a bit too close for me to properly ‘judge’, they are a bit neutral for me. Carolee always told me to go to where the difficulty was, and somehow my face has always been a challenging situation.” – SMW. 30. April 2020 (inventory note): “I also think of Jo Spence, the British artist, being told she was ‘brave’ for using her own image when she was not classically beautiful. And Carolee Schneemann and Hannah Wilke subverting the ‘ideal image’. I feel somewhere in between as I swing between ‘more ideal’ and ‘less ideal’.” – SMW.
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2013
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Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, various locations.
‘Official Ugly Face Folder’ (2013) — from 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “It’s a mixed bag, but could be kept together in the archive and labelled as such (‘Ugly Face Folder’). It’s all subjective, what seems ugly when one looks at oneself. This was an attempt at ‘control’ almost by calling the images ugly I could somehow ameliorate the ‘ugliness’ I felt looking at them.” – SMW.
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Performance…
2013
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Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, various locations.
‘Official Ugly Face Folder’ (2013) — from 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “It’s a mixed bag, but could be kept together in the archive and labelled as such (‘Ugly Face Folder’). It’s all subjective, what seems ugly when one looks at oneself. This was an attempt at ‘control’ almost by calling the images ugly I could somehow ameliorate the ‘ugliness’ I felt looking at them.” – SMW.
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2013
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Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, various locations.
‘Official Ugly Face Folder’ (2013) — from 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “It’s a mixed bag, but could be kept together in the archive and labelled as such (‘Ugly Face Folder’). It’s all subjective, what seems ugly when one looks at oneself. This was an attempt at ‘control’ almost by calling the images ugly I could somehow ameliorate the ‘ugliness’ I felt looking at them.” – SMW.
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Performance…
2013
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Location: Swammerdamstraat Apartment Amsterdam, various locations.
‘Official Ugly Face Folder’ (2013) — from 12. April 2020 (WeTransfer notes): “It’s a mixed bag, but could be kept together in the archive and labelled as such (‘Ugly Face Folder’). It’s all subjective, what seems ugly when one looks at oneself. This was an attempt at ‘control’ almost by calling the images ugly I could somehow ameliorate the ‘ugliness’ I felt looking at them.” – SMW.
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Philosophical…
Working 2000
Carolee Schneemann
2000
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Distributed notes
Aimar Arriola
2020-2021
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The extended second process event in the three-part series featured an epistolary exchange between the artist and Bilbao-based curator Aimar Arriola. The exchange took place between June 2020 and February 2021, and – in process – was shared in www.ificantdance.studio between December 2020 and April 2021. From the ificantdance.studio: “Dipping in and out of a slow-time conversation between an artist and curator. To be read, whether chronologically or not, in an intimate space during moments alone”. – MH.
“Detached but Intimate/Personal. These next seven letters unfold in a flurry of activity during the final two weeks of the summer holiday. With the arrival of Aimar’s first letter to Sands via post, some ‘admissions’ are put on the table and with them a comb purchased in the old town of Bilbao. This small drug-store purchase becomes like a codex through which Aimar begins to speak about his ‘self-contained’ ways—in somewhat stark contrast to Sands’ continuous “spilling out’—and, in the process, to articulate his relationship to relationships, to the (auto)biographical and to the kinds of intimacies that flow through those connections to self and others. In the last of the letters, Sands receives Aimar’s comb, making an admission of his own that sometimes he worries he is ‘too much’ and closing the communique with the thought: ‘we do not know ourselves physically as we appear to others…the same might go for behavior…’” – MH studio note from ificantdance.studio.
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01825-2002…
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Documentation of…
2002
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Digital registration of semi-public first nude performance in the ‘BOYS: The Construction of Masculinities’ group exhibition at Shedhalle, Zürich.
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Performalist…
1995/2007
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8 strips were originally made; one strip is now with the Estate of Carolee Schneemann and one strip is in the personal collection of A.A. Bronson.
“The images were taken by Rudy Rijling in Amsterdam, an (at that time) older than me erotic photographer of young men whose ad I found in the back of a contact magazine. I had just gotten back from Greece with De Ateliers on a residency trip and because of the weather difference I had a very heavy red rash on the insides of my thighs. Luckily on black and white film this does not really show up. I had wanted to make this wallpaper in 1997 for my first exhibit ever at Stedelijk Museum Bureau Amsterdam but one of the curators, Martijn van Nieuwenhuyzen (a gay man himself) advised 23 year old me against it, saying I would become known as the ‘guy with the erect penis’. Carolee Schneemann told me never to be ashamed of pleasure and how the body shows it. So I was confused, but listened to him and then in 2007, ten years later, at a solo exhibit in Munich at Lothringer 13, finally had the opportunity to have the wallpaper made. I had tried to become a gay porno model, but only half-heartedly. I went back to Rudy later to ask for the negatives which he gave me, we also had sex a few times at some point. It’s one of the first times I realized that much older men were attractive to me…There were 8 strips of wallpaper and they were never glued, they exist as unique objects. I have to add and I don’t really like to, it gives me no great pleasure, that part of the idea of the wallpaper came from Andy Warhol’s Cow series of wallpaper and other series of his. But there could have been other influences this was not an exclusive influence.” – SMW.
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02231-c201…
Thought works
Gai Pied drawings
A.A. Bronson, Albert van…
c. 2015
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The pages are yellowed and cracked with age. Dutch Curator Erik Hagoort gave SMW a few huge boxes of these French gay liberation magazines from the 80s, and SMW intuitively started painting on them. There are many more than those listed in the archive.
“I had to throw away a lot of these, there were also Dutch gay liberation magazines in the boxes Erik Hagoort gave me, called ‘De Verkeerde Krant’ or so, (‘van de verkeerde kant’ was a Dutch saying for a queer person) but due to storage I could not keep everything as a resource to use. There are hundreds of these painted drawings, and they get quite a good response. Paul Thek = newspaper paintings, Karen Finley = same as Paul Thek, Erik Hagoort is the partner of Dutch artist Albert van Westing and AA Bronson showed a fondness for the drawings.” – SMW.
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