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“I think I draw penises not as an obsession, but to get rid of them.” – SMW.

“There is always a tail (like they say in Dutch)…” – SMW.

Rijksacademie Internal Open Studios – 07.09.20. “20 years ago, sentimental without irony was not accepted. Feelings, no no no.” – Anon. “The rejection of knowledge production as cerebral. Spells, they bring out feelings.” – Anon.

“(Finding out these buried works from oblivion) is strange but also gives me comfort, as we are doing something with them now.” – SMW.

“I consider these some kind of basic philosophy…” – SMW. “… like groundwork.” – AC. “Without them, I couldn’t have painted the horses. I wasn’t strong enough. Or confident enough. Or clear enough.” – SMW.

“Is art our job? A psychologist got annoyed with me. ‘Art is a choice’, they said.” – SMW. “I would have stabbed them. The fact that you love what you are told that loving what you do makes it a vocation is a neoliberal brainwashing. Work, little capital slave. No! It’s still labour. It’s still hard and difficult to engage with at times, there’s no higher calling.” – AC.

“I refuse to destroy things.” – SMW.